tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post205169003105000329..comments2023-07-09T07:45:50.552-07:00Comments on Socialism and/or barbarism: Combined and uneven apocalypse (Apocalyptic notes, 3)ECWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02142600295759704786noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-24554837547648941662012-01-31T08:58:57.236-08:002012-01-31T08:58:57.236-08:00John M,
You just described Michigan. USed to be a...John M,<br /><br />You just described Michigan. USed to be a rich bountiful place, ruined by the human flotsam and jetsam who now dominate the place. <br /><br />Philly to go next. <br /><br />I don't even see the decay as barbarian. Barbarians were, in many cases, much better at things than the Romans. What we have now isn't barbarity it's dysgenics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-77065338842849543532012-01-31T08:55:08.189-08:002012-01-31T08:55:08.189-08:00See Detroit. But that Apocalypse was entirely avoi...See Detroit. But that Apocalypse was entirely avoidable if someone had barred the zombie types form moving there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-23978300561107527282009-03-28T12:24:00.000-07:002009-03-28T12:24:00.000-07:00Great series of posts.I'm curious if you think of ...Great series of posts.<BR/><BR/>I'm curious if you think of any explorations on the images of post-human worlds.<BR/>Not eradication of humanity but, for instance, its melting into a collective consciousness bubble, the loss of individuality, the reduction of the individual to a cell etc.<BR/><BR/>Most apocalyptic dreams focus on the lone wanderers and survivors who remain unchanged amidst the ruins. The system's general failure around the people. It makes sense this is more popular these days than (like you said) the chromed supremacy of capitalist distopian cyberpunk. <BR/>Nevertheless, technology keeps advancing regardless of political system, challenging (or simply destroying) the humanist hope on the individual. So who are we going to be after that particular apocalypse-from-within?Guihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10327057321925220420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-10336422513184537332009-03-16T18:09:00.000-07:002009-03-16T18:09:00.000-07:00Another reference that articulates this point quit...Another reference that articulates this point quite nicely is the BBC's original version of Survivors.<BR/><BR/>The world effectively dies, forcing people to flee to the countryside and set up farming communes. As they discuss the wisdom of working on certain pieces of infrastructure it is difficult to not realise that the post-apocalyptic world of these characters is in fact the normal lives for many pre-apocalyptic people all over the world.Jonathan Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12664070458542872255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-73287018568598878822009-03-16T13:31:00.000-07:002009-03-16T13:31:00.000-07:00I too from this insalment was hoping for exactly t...I too from this insalment was hoping for exactly this<BR/><BR/><I>the recognition that the post-apocalyptic is not an image of that-to-be</I><BR/><BR/>and will have to reflect on your idea of the unevenness of it. Beautifully done, again, sir.Giovanni Tisohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10618534731338616708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-40749825549990333712009-03-15T02:26:00.000-07:002009-03-15T02:26:00.000-07:00I've been thinking a lot of this concept of the ap...I've been thinking a lot of this concept of the apocalypse as always-already present. It is late, but I will extrapolate on parts of your post on my blog once I find time.<BR/><BR/>-Ryan LeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4571055663184272276.post-26062834560129934202009-03-14T20:45:00.000-07:002009-03-14T20:45:00.000-07:00i think if the current economic crisis has taught ...i think if the current economic crisis has taught us anything and what im about to say is more of an analogy than an analysis but it is that if the apocalypse is in fact evental as the major news media seems inclined to portray the current economic crisis then the imagination of the apocalyptic event has progressed beyond both the threats of the nuclear wipeout and chemical warfare to the point where we have an apocalypse which allows the quote unquote apocalyptees that is to say those people who are affected by the apocalypse are able to read and write articles about how it was during the other parties administration that the apocalypse began and to watch the comedy news channel skewer the entertainment slanted business news personality how this all relates to your post is essentially that these imaginings of the apocalypse are precisely what is the most relevant issue in many peoples lives so that it can be said that the job of writing a proper post apocalypse is even more urgent than you have portrayed it here because pretty rapidly the major corporations will be doing just that and as one of your commenters said before we will have killed neoliberalism or the current world order only in order to birth it in death and make it a permanent force if not a permanent hegemony i have to say theres a line in the song lollipop off the album the carter iii which goes shawty need a refund need to bring that nigga back which aside from commenting on the insidious creep of capitalist body as commodity into the most intimate of interpersonal relations also seems to me to cosign the idea that you present of uneven development in sort of the most puerile but potentially productive fashionBenladenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06972015735063159831noreply@blogger.com